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nice to chat with you. >> senator, let's talk about the fiscal cliff. increasingly we are referring to it as the fiscal curve, possibly among some folks in our circle, the fiscal mole hill. you have advocated going over the fiscal cliff as a way for both democrats and republicans to make a deal and i will call to mind -- i will call to everyone's attention comments you made at the brookings institution this summer when you said if the bush tax cuts expire every proposal will be a tax cut proposal and the norquist pledge will no longer keep republicans boxed in and unable to compromise. which would seem to be good news for republicans. what do you make of john boehner's statement saying bad idea? >> well, first of all, i respect representative cole for saying the obvious, that there is no need to hold 98% of our middle-class families and 97% of our small businesses hostage just in order to protect the wealthiest americans. that this fiscal cliff that we are facing can be resolved very quickly if we pass a bill to extend the tax cuts for those people. i r
nice to chat with you. >> senator, let's talk about the fiscal cliff. increasingly we are referring to it as the fiscal curve, possibly among some folks in our circle, the fiscal mole hill. you have advocated going over the fiscal cliff as a way for both democrats and republicans to make a deal and i will call to mind -- i will call to everyone's attention comments you made at the brookings institution this summer when you said if the bush tax cuts expire every proposal will be a tax cut...
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can you gather what is talked about regarding the fiscal cliff? >> for what mary was saying, it really seemed like revenue was going to be a part of it. they are trying to stick from to the $250,000 threshold of the tax cuts. that is different from what happened in the 2010 lame-duck, when president obama compromised. it seems the approach is different this time. they're not going to cave on revenue. the republicans will really have to make some concessions on revenue in order for democrats to come to the table with any entitlement cuts at all. >> i thought she was very good at sticking to that talking point of prevent -- revenue and remaining firm. at the same time, i thought it was interesting that she never said the president assured us that ultimately he will not make these changes in entitlements. we talked about the cpi concept that was in the talks last year which cut social security benefits. we do not know ultimately what the president will do. he does not report to us. my sense is that they're kind of the bracing themselves for something
can you gather what is talked about regarding the fiscal cliff? >> for what mary was saying, it really seemed like revenue was going to be a part of it. they are trying to stick from to the $250,000 threshold of the tax cuts. that is different from what happened in the 2010 lame-duck, when president obama compromised. it seems the approach is different this time. they're not going to cave on revenue. the republicans will really have to make some concessions on revenue in order for...
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the president's fiscal cliff campaign. live pictures of the white house are president obama will meet today with 15 small business owners. the first of a series of meetings this week as the administration puts the pressure on congress to make a deal. the "washington post" reporting the talks are accelerating between president obama and top congressional leaders, including john boehner who was on the phone with the president over the weekend. the white house's pr campaign is being buoyed along by warren buffett who is voicing support for tax hikes for americans just like him. >> i think it would have a great effect in terms of the morale of the middle class who have seen themselves paying high payroll taxes, income taxes and then watched guys like me end up paying a rate that's below that, you know, paid by the people in my office. >> joining me now is wisconsin's republican senator ron johnson. senator, it's great to have you with us this morning. and as we talk about what's taking place in washington, d.c. right now, the
the president's fiscal cliff campaign. live pictures of the white house are president obama will meet today with 15 small business owners. the first of a series of meetings this week as the administration puts the pressure on congress to make a deal. the "washington post" reporting the talks are accelerating between president obama and top congressional leaders, including john boehner who was on the phone with the president over the weekend. the white house's pr campaign is being...
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we look at the fiscal cliff or as steve calls it the fiscal slope or the fiscal fiesta and of course the fiscal follies. we'll install our own special graphic later this week. it's our new style of play and our next guest might want to be a pair here as he writes about it every day until the situation is resolved. sounds riveting. in the guest spot today is dan gross, the columnist and global business editor for "newsweek" daily beast who says in his latest piece republicans still haven't recognized the new reality. dan, you may be right. i don't know. i guess we'll see. if republicans do agree to raise taxes, do you think that democrats will agree to any health care entitlement reform? which is the harder sell? >> no, i don't think so. that's why i'm so pessimistic or actually so optimistic about going over this fiscal cliff. usually when i threaten to write about something every day until it is resolved, it gets resolved quickly. we'll see in this case. >> that's power. >> the election kind of ratified the stance. which is the bush tax cuts should expire for those making over a cer
we look at the fiscal cliff or as steve calls it the fiscal slope or the fiscal fiesta and of course the fiscal follies. we'll install our own special graphic later this week. it's our new style of play and our next guest might want to be a pair here as he writes about it every day until the situation is resolved. sounds riveting. in the guest spot today is dan gross, the columnist and global business editor for "newsweek" daily beast who says in his latest piece republicans still...
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effort on cliff the fiscal cliff, of course. putting pressure on congress, president will talk to small business owners. so here's what's going on. right. with this fiscal cliff looming the president has laid out -- very, very clear what he's talking about, what he wants to see. it is a $4 billion package of cuts to the deficit a combination of spending cuts and new revenue and about $2 trillion of that coming from getting rid of the bush tax cuts. at the same time while getting rid of the tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of americans letting the tax cuts for 98% of americans continue because the middle class do need the help and the wealthiest people do not. so to get there of course, and by the way let's back up, right. the president put forth his plan on november 6th and mitt romney put forth his plan and the american people said no, we don't like that romney way of going which is to continue to coddle the rich. we agree with president obama. so now the negotiations are underway. about how to avoid going off the fiscal cliff. a
effort on cliff the fiscal cliff, of course. putting pressure on congress, president will talk to small business owners. so here's what's going on. right. with this fiscal cliff looming the president has laid out -- very, very clear what he's talking about, what he wants to see. it is a $4 billion package of cuts to the deficit a combination of spending cuts and new revenue and about $2 trillion of that coming from getting rid of the bush tax cuts. at the same time while getting rid of the tax...
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i believe that we should have been negotiations on the fiscal cliff. of course, that's two things. $500 billion tax increase of the 2001-2003 tax cuts lapse in, and the sequestration of spending restraint. sequestration is a good thing. you can massage it into devoted to saving $100 billion a year reducing the -- >> it's not a common republican 20 because of me a lot of defense cuts spent ahead of the of the conservative caucus, 60%, most conservative guys in the house jim jordan said the own thing worse than this request would be not to have savings. and you saw mitch mcconnell say we are not raising taxes to in the sequestered. so that people have drawn a line in the sand against the idea that we will spend all that -- >> let's try -- >> quickly from -- >> quickly from has to be a c-span. why? because only then would the president have to say, trying to consider what spending cuts what quick cbs hasn't done that. nbc hasn't done the. "washington post" hasn't in the. he is walking around campaigning. point of fact if you look at the savings in his bud
i believe that we should have been negotiations on the fiscal cliff. of course, that's two things. $500 billion tax increase of the 2001-2003 tax cuts lapse in, and the sequestration of spending restraint. sequestration is a good thing. you can massage it into devoted to saving $100 billion a year reducing the -- >> it's not a common republican 20 because of me a lot of defense cuts spent ahead of the of the conservative caucus, 60%, most conservative guys in the house jim jordan said the...
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. >> if not, we go off the supposed cliff. >> the fiscal cliff or slope. the bump of various height. >> it's going to sell that fiscal cliff. >>> thelma and louise might need to make room in the car for the president of the united states. at the white house today, senior obama administration officials met with liberal leaders and union officials. "the washington post" reports that one told him after the meeting, quote, would the white house go off the cliff if it's between that and compromising their core principles? i was left with the impression that they would. illinois democratic senator dick durbin spoke today at the liberal center for american progress where he said this about the possibility of going off the cliff which fears of this show know is is really more of a curb than a cliff. >> some have called let's go over the cliff and watch what happens. we know if we're not careful, it will in fact stop economic growth and hurt everyone through every income category, particularly those most vulnerable. >> what he did not say is he must not go off the
. >> if not, we go off the supposed cliff. >> the fiscal cliff or slope. the bump of various height. >> it's going to sell that fiscal cliff. >>> thelma and louise might need to make room in the car for the president of the united states. at the white house today, senior obama administration officials met with liberal leaders and union officials. "the washington post" reports that one told him after the meeting, quote, would the white house go off the cliff...
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a lot to get into this morning as we talk about the fiscal cliff. erskine bowles says he thinks democrats and republicans are serious about getting a deal done, but when you hear congressman cole walking back statements, do you think that's true? >> cole doesn't want to be a political target of the right. so he can easily say i really didn't mean that prks and to ge of the news. and probably trying to set the table for other guys. which is a signal that the right wing is still very stuck in con kreetd as you said earlier. they don't want to move. they are denying election results. but there is real ominous things i think that are starting to surface here. any talk of a mortgage deduction change would be horrendous in my opinion and it would fly in the face of everything barack obama and joe biden ran on in protecting middle class. they have to be crystal clear that that is off the table. the housing crisis started the last recession. if they go after mortgage deductions, if they put that on the table even for high end homes, that will change sales,
a lot to get into this morning as we talk about the fiscal cliff. erskine bowles says he thinks democrats and republicans are serious about getting a deal done, but when you hear congressman cole walking back statements, do you think that's true? >> cole doesn't want to be a political target of the right. so he can easily say i really didn't mean that prks and to ge of the news. and probably trying to set the table for other guys. which is a signal that the right wing is still very stuck...
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and obviously the fiscal cliff. we'll talk to two men on opposite sides of this, the executive director of stop gambling. i'm going to start with you, terry rich, you obviously run one of the big lotteries in america. you obviously heard what dave said, they don't like it, a tax on the poor, and really it should just be cancelled. >> you know, as he said that, i would just add one word, it is opti optional revenue, people don't have to play. and as lotteries work across the country under great leadership of the governor and legislature, who wouldn't allow, as you say, preying on the poor, it is important that we continue to talk about the lottery. that it is not an investment. i absolutely agree with that. this is a chance to have some entertainment. and in this tough economic times to dream just a little bit. so anybody who is spending too much, we'll say don't play. we don't want you to play, get help, you know somebody who is doing that. every lottery has a website and an address with how to get help. this is dis
and obviously the fiscal cliff. we'll talk to two men on opposite sides of this, the executive director of stop gambling. i'm going to start with you, terry rich, you obviously run one of the big lotteries in america. you obviously heard what dave said, they don't like it, a tax on the poor, and really it should just be cancelled. >> you know, as he said that, i would just add one word, it is opti optional revenue, people don't have to play. and as lotteries work across the country under...
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push grover off the cliff"? >> again, we were on the fiscal cliff then. and attack me personally. >> there has been -- not so much a math argument but an argument that there has been a change in the way these issues are regarded, even by a lot of top republicans. >> they are the same six people they brought out two years ago. saying the same thing. and again, and they didn't raise taxes before. they just thought about it. which is why you got into the impure thought. i don't want to be too rough on him. he talked about may be someday doing the tax increases. again, we have 92-plus guys in the house and senate who have taken the commitment. we have governors and state legislators who have taken the pledge. the reason why it's easier for me, i mean, you could have said, you could have written a story in 1990 when bush broke the pledge, first president to ever sign the pledge, reagan helped me design it but he was not running for re-election. >> you think you have job security. >> the tax issue is there and is an important part of the modern republican party
push grover off the cliff"? >> again, we were on the fiscal cliff then. and attack me personally. >> there has been -- not so much a math argument but an argument that there has been a change in the way these issues are regarded, even by a lot of top republicans. >> they are the same six people they brought out two years ago. saying the same thing. and again, and they didn't raise taxes before. they just thought about it. which is why you got into the impure thought. i...
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. >>> and here at home it's time to work on the fiscal cliff. can both sides strike a bargain before everyone's tacks go up. we'll cover that with our headliners. senators dick durbin and lindsey graham. plus our powerhouse roundtable. matthew dowd, joe klein, ruth marcus, david sanger of "the new york times" and peggy noonan of "the wall street journal." >>> then ben affleck. >> you saw your parents killed? >> with war breaking out in congo, he's here live on what can be done to stop the fighting. >>> and -- >> i'm jonathan karl, i'm going to show you how this clipper will bring bipartisanship to washington. >>> hello, again. you just saw one small step for bipartisanship, is there more to come in washington? congress is back to work this week. top priority, a deal to block those automatic spending cuts and tax increases now set for january 1st, and some smart money is starting to bet that the president and congress will find a way to avoid that fiscal cliff. stocks up this week in anticipation of a deal with the dow clocking five straight of g
. >>> and here at home it's time to work on the fiscal cliff. can both sides strike a bargain before everyone's tacks go up. we'll cover that with our headliners. senators dick durbin and lindsey graham. plus our powerhouse roundtable. matthew dowd, joe klein, ruth marcus, david sanger of "the new york times" and peggy noonan of "the wall street journal." >>> then ben affleck. >> you saw your parents killed? >> with war breaking out in congo,...
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push grover off the cliff"? >> again, we were on the fiscal cliff then. and attack me personally. >> there has been -- not so much a math argument but an argument that there has been a change in the way these issues are regarded, even by a lot of top republicans. . >> they are the same six people they brought out two years ago. saying the same thing. and again, and they didn't raise taxes before. they just thought about it. which is why you got into the impure thought. i don't want to be too rough on chand less. he talked about may be someday doing the tax increases. again, we have 92-plus guys in the house and senate who have taken the commitment. we have governors and state legislators who have taken the pledge. the reason why it's easier for me, i mean, you could have said, you could have written a story in 1990 when bush broke the pledge, first president to ever sign the pledge, reagan helped me design it but he was not running for re-election. >> you think you have job security. >> the tax issue is there and is an important part of the modern republi
push grover off the cliff"? >> again, we were on the fiscal cliff then. and attack me personally. >> there has been -- not so much a math argument but an argument that there has been a change in the way these issues are regarded, even by a lot of top republicans. . >> they are the same six people they brought out two years ago. saying the same thing. and again, and they didn't raise taxes before. they just thought about it. which is why you got into the impure thought. i...
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not made in the heat of the fiscal cliff. not done in the closing days here, of a lame duck session. let's look at this thoughtfully and make sure at the end of the day medicare is going to survive and be stronger. but i think there is plenty of ground here for us to come together as democrats and republicans, the congress and the president, and avoid the worst parts of the fiscal cliff. >> okay, so what entitlements then? what would you put on the table? right now it's been the narrative is kind of republicans will put taxes on the table, democrats will put entitlements on the table. and i talked to a couple people that say everything's on the table then they start ticking off all the things that are not on the table, excuse me, so what's on your table that's an entitlement that you'd be willing to negotiate before we fall off the cliff? >> of course. and the social security is a separate thing. it does not add a penny to the debt. we should deal with this long-term survival and solvency, and we can do that in a separate set
not made in the heat of the fiscal cliff. not done in the closing days here, of a lame duck session. let's look at this thoughtfully and make sure at the end of the day medicare is going to survive and be stronger. but i think there is plenty of ground here for us to come together as democrats and republicans, the congress and the president, and avoid the worst parts of the fiscal cliff. >> okay, so what entitlements then? what would you put on the table? right now it's been the narrative...
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the fiscal cliff is a bluff. now, defaulting on the debt, that's something real. you could spark some global financial crisis. but the fiscal cliff, people are going to wake up january 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and nothing substantial will have changed. because these are cuts that are phased in, it'll take a long time for the withholding to start hitting people's paychecks, and even after withholding starts hitting people's paychecks, you're not going to see an immediate change in spending that would have some type of immediate and cataclysmic effect on the economy. what does immediately change is december you have the bush tax rates in effect. january, you have the clinton tax rates in effect. democrats are better off negotiating from the clinton rates and then they're saying, okay, look, here are the rates, we're going to bring this down, we're going to bring this down. we're going to leave these how they are. how would you like to vote for this? are you going to oppose this? and people didn't really vote for compromise necessarily this election. they overwhelmingly e
the fiscal cliff is a bluff. now, defaulting on the debt, that's something real. you could spark some global financial crisis. but the fiscal cliff, people are going to wake up january 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, and nothing substantial will have changed. because these are cuts that are phased in, it'll take a long time for the withholding to start hitting people's paychecks, and even after withholding starts hitting people's paychecks, you're not going to see an immediate change in spending that would...
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pink unicorns, part of the fiscal cliff discussions now. let me bring in cnn contributor anna navarro who claims she has never seen me during the daylight. great to see you during the daylight, anna. >> how are you, john? >> good, i'm doing well, thank you is this over tour, these statements from the people like saxby chambliss, lindsey graham, is this what people are hoping to see in terms of reaching a deal? >> i think it's an important moment. i think what people are saying is, this is not about pledges. let's not allow for the tail to wag the dog. this is not about a pledge. this is about finding a solution. let's not be boxed in. let's have the ability to be creative, think outside the box. and come up with a solution that works for america. and i think they're getting sick of being held to pledge here, pledge there. you know, it's almost like read my lips. no new pledges. >> let me just read the pledge, so people know what we're talking about here. it says, number one, oppose all efforts to increase the marginal tax rates for individu
pink unicorns, part of the fiscal cliff discussions now. let me bring in cnn contributor anna navarro who claims she has never seen me during the daylight. great to see you during the daylight, anna. >> how are you, john? >> good, i'm doing well, thank you is this over tour, these statements from the people like saxby chambliss, lindsey graham, is this what people are hoping to see in terms of reaching a deal? >> i think it's an important moment. i think what people are saying...
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and just 35 days left until we reach the fiscal cliff. a lame duck congress heads back to capitol hill beginning this afternoon. we're seeing a hint of compromise in the air. several key republican senators signaling that they are willing to consider breaking their no tax vows to get a budget plan passed. according to a new cnn/orc poll, that's exactly what you want to hear. 67% say a mix of tax hikes and spending cuts is the best way to avoid a fiscal cliff crisis. cnn political editor paul steinhauser, he is live in washington for us this morning. nice to see you, paul. so falling off the fiscal cliff means severe spending cuts and tax hikes, automatically kick in. so how worried are most americans? i understand you have some numbers for us. >> i do have more numbers from that new cnn/orc national poll. americans are concerned about how it will affect them directly. almost four in ten said if the country falls off the fiscal cliff they will be impacted a great deal. or somewhat. look at this. another four in ten say somewhat. only about
and just 35 days left until we reach the fiscal cliff. a lame duck congress heads back to capitol hill beginning this afternoon. we're seeing a hint of compromise in the air. several key republican senators signaling that they are willing to consider breaking their no tax vows to get a budget plan passed. according to a new cnn/orc poll, that's exactly what you want to hear. 67% say a mix of tax hikes and spending cuts is the best way to avoid a fiscal cliff crisis. cnn political editor paul...
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. >>> plus, fiscal cliff diving. the countdown to the new year is counting down to economic disaster. what will it take to reach a compromise and pull the country back from the edge before january 1st. >>> the holiday season kicking into gear. we'll take you all around the country. meantime, relative calm between israel and gaza following the cease fire did not last very long. today a clash at the poirder left one palestinian dead and 15 wounded. as usual, we are hearing two different versions of this cease fire version. we have two reporters there. aman, i'll begin with you. what are they saying about the glash at the gaza border today? >> they're saying that the palestinians, 300 of them approached the israel/gaza border on the palestinian side of it. they went there to access their farm land. that area is considered mostly essentially farm land for those families. a lot of people earn their livelihoods from there. they were going there to protest and demand that they have the right to go as far up to the border as
. >>> plus, fiscal cliff diving. the countdown to the new year is counting down to economic disaster. what will it take to reach a compromise and pull the country back from the edge before january 1st. >>> the holiday season kicking into gear. we'll take you all around the country. meantime, relative calm between israel and gaza following the cease fire did not last very long. today a clash at the poirder left one palestinian dead and 15 wounded. as usual, we are hearing two...
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we asked the effect of this fiscal cliff. if the country goes off the fiscal cliff, the effect on you. look at that. 24% say it's a crisis. 44% say major problems. who would be responsible if there is no agreement? the blame game. take a look at that number as well right there. put that back up. who would be most responsible? 45% say the republicans in congress. 34% say he would. 15% say both sides would be blamed. one other takeaway? people want mixture. they're not very optimistic a deal will get done. >> let's talk about grover norquist for just a bit, paul. so most americans want taxes raised on the wealthiest americans. we just saw your poll there that 45% of americans would blame republicans if there's no compromise reached to avoid this fiscal cliff. so why is grover norquist still so powerful? why does any republican care? >> well, this pledge has been around for 25 years. that's a long time. it stood through a lot of different crises. take, for instance, saxby chambliss and lindsey graham. both up for re-election in
we asked the effect of this fiscal cliff. if the country goes off the fiscal cliff, the effect on you. look at that. 24% say it's a crisis. 44% say major problems. who would be responsible if there is no agreement? the blame game. take a look at that number as well right there. put that back up. who would be most responsible? 45% say the republicans in congress. 34% say he would. 15% say both sides would be blamed. one other takeaway? people want mixture. they're not very optimistic a deal will...
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the fiscal cliff negotiations are set to take place this week. in washington today, we heard both sides staking out their positions. here's democratic senator carl levin on "meet the press." >> the key is whether the republicans will move away from the rigid position which has been the grover norquist pledge that they signed that they will not go away for additional revenues. >> the gop rejecting the decade-old pledge. here's what norquist said about cham bliss. >> the commitment that he made to the people of georgia was not to me. it was to the people of georgia that he would go to washington to reduce government spending and reform government, not raise taxes. if he wants to change his mind and become a tax increaser so we don't have to reform government, he needs to have that conversation with the people of georgia. >>> >> and new today, congressman peter king on the controversy. >> i agree with chambliss. if i were in congress in 1941, i would have signed al declaration of war against japan. i'm not going to declare war against japan today. t
the fiscal cliff negotiations are set to take place this week. in washington today, we heard both sides staking out their positions. here's democratic senator carl levin on "meet the press." >> the key is whether the republicans will move away from the rigid position which has been the grover norquist pledge that they signed that they will not go away for additional revenues. >> the gop rejecting the decade-old pledge. here's what norquist said about cham bliss. >>...
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he has ceos, lots of fiscal cliff stuff. joy's christmas shopping and was looking at best buy for the latest smartphone. you wanna see if walmart has the same phone, for less? let's see! samsung galaxy s3 --- you could save over $50. no way! and -- you get a $100 gift card. are you serious?! yes! see for yourself how much you can save on the smartphones you want for christmas. walmart. but when i was in an accident... see for yourself how much you can save on the smartphones i was worried the...
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walmart. ♪ >>> holiday cheer and fiscal cliff fears. the white house releases a new report on christmas shopping and budget negotiations. it's monday, november 26th, and this is "now." alex wagner will be back tomorrow. joining me today from politico, ben white, assistant managing editor of "time" magazine, ronna, jody can tor of "the new york times" and the good professor himself, michael eric dyson. after a record-setting holiday weekend, consumers are expected to spend a lot of cash on what retailers call cyber monday. americans will spend $1.5 billion online today, a 20% bump from lastea
walmart. ♪ >>> holiday cheer and fiscal cliff fears. the white house releases a new report on christmas shopping and budget negotiations. it's monday, november 26th, and this is "now." alex wagner will be back tomorrow. joining me today from politico, ben white, assistant managing editor of "time" magazine, ronna, jody can tor of "the new york times" and the good professor himself, michael eric dyson. after a record-setting holiday weekend, consumers are...
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do you believe a deal can and will be reached before this fiscal cliff? >> i do believe a deal can be reached, and the basisser that agreemenbase basis of that agreement has to be revenues and cuts. we've done a trillion dollars in cuts as part of the control act. the president has additional cuts. he's got more healthcare cuts than simpson-bowles proposed. he doesn't do it by transferring -- martha: that deal did not go through. do you expect the president will sit down with leadership this week to discuss this and take a leadership role in this fight? >> the president is taking a leadership role in this fight. i think people need to sit down as they have looked for ways to find progress. as you know the president already had the congressional leaders to the white house a little while back. people are pursuing different ideas right now to try to make -- to try and prevent us from going over the fiscal cliff, and the president has laid out a very clear map, road map for how we do that. martha: all right we walked right up to it in the grand bargain and th
do you believe a deal can and will be reached before this fiscal cliff? >> i do believe a deal can be reached, and the basisser that agreemenbase basis of that agreement has to be revenues and cuts. we've done a trillion dollars in cuts as part of the control act. the president has additional cuts. he's got more healthcare cuts than simpson-bowles proposed. he doesn't do it by transferring -- martha: that deal did not go through. do you expect the president will sit down with leadership...
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busy days at the white house now with the fiscal cliff looming. what is it 36 days left i think, before we might go over the cliff. what is on the president's agenda, david jackson covers the white house for "usa today." how are you? >> fine bill. how are you? >> bill: good. i missed my favorite event of the year, last week which was the pardoning of the thanksgiving day turkey. >> absolutely. he cracked a few jokes, making crack about something like his last gift. and he also made a nate silver joke. >> bill: oh, did he? >> yeah, saying nate silver was right on on which turkey would be pardoned this year. >> bill: that's great. i read in the tribune the fact that there was a big turn out of the press corps. >> yeah a lot of reporters brought family and friends because it's an easy event to get people into. >> bill: well, it is the party season. i got my invitation to the annual christmas party. >> yeah, the number keeps going up exponentially, but i think it is about 20. and he'll be shaking thousands of hands. they stand there in some room off o
busy days at the white house now with the fiscal cliff looming. what is it 36 days left i think, before we might go over the cliff. what is on the president's agenda, david jackson covers the white house for "usa today." how are you? >> fine bill. how are you? >> bill: good. i missed my favorite event of the year, last week which was the pardoning of the thanksgiving day turkey. >> absolutely. he cracked a few jokes, making crack about something like his last gift....
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for consensus on the big fiscal cliff. host: could be wrapped up in the larger fiscal cliff talks and the possible deal they might come up with? guest: i suppose it is right. the postal service has been in its own little world since 1971 when it became an independent arm of the government, a semi- independent quasi business off of -- into its own world since 1971. it would have to have its own little section that could be added to the final legislation dealing, the big deal, the grand bargain. host: let's get to phone calls. karen from the illinois. democratic caller. caller: i was wondering why the post office is the only business that has to prepay way in advance? the republicans -- run that throned on a lame duck session? if they would go in and take it away, the post office would not be in the shape it is in. guest: the caller makes a pretty good point. the negotiators are trying to not eliminated but maybe give a -- reduce the amount of prepayments that are required. to reduce it a good amount -- the majority might be
for consensus on the big fiscal cliff. host: could be wrapped up in the larger fiscal cliff talks and the possible deal they might come up with? guest: i suppose it is right. the postal service has been in its own little world since 1971 when it became an independent arm of the government, a semi- independent quasi business off of -- into its own world since 1971. it would have to have its own little section that could be added to the final legislation dealing, the big deal, the grand bargain....
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there wasn't any talk about the fiscal cliff. we'll see what happens this week because these negotiations continue. but those shopping numbers have given people a lot of reason to think maybe there's some good news out there. we see the numbers coming in on this today, cyber monday,s biggest online shopping day. $1.5 billion in sales. chuck, i will admit, on amazon this morning, i got shut out by the deals i wanted to get. hey, it's worth a try. >> i guess you have to right that "r" button, refresh. thank you, becky. >> thank you, chuck. >>> one of the tasks of political strength, how do you fare in unfriendly it territory? in today's deep dive we're taking a look at the democratic senators holding seats in some of the reddest presidential spots on the map. take a look at this. in the new congress a dozen democrats will hold seats in states that voted for mitt romney. one in alaska, ed north dakota, south dakota, missouri, arkansas, louisiana, indiana and north carolina. democrats hold both senate seats in west virginia and monta
there wasn't any talk about the fiscal cliff. we'll see what happens this week because these negotiations continue. but those shopping numbers have given people a lot of reason to think maybe there's some good news out there. we see the numbers coming in on this today, cyber monday,s biggest online shopping day. $1.5 billion in sales. chuck, i will admit, on amazon this morning, i got shut out by the deals i wanted to get. hey, it's worth a try. >> i guess you have to right that...
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we're talking about the fiscal cliff. one of the urgent matters this lame duck congress needs to address before the end of the year and even though the tax increases are going to take effect in 36 days, there's still only talk of a compromise, so can congress actually walk the walk or are we going to go off this cliff? up next, mike lee of utah. really appreciate you taking the time. you wrote an op-ed in the washington times and said quote, delaying significant fiscal restraint will send the wrong signal and may serve as taping point for our economy. so you're fear is that interest rates could surge. to be father, we've had this disastrous situation for years and interest rates have kept falling in spite of all worries that there would be a disaster. >> that's right. that's one of the things that distinguishes the fiscal cliff, which we're coming up against right now. from what i described yesterday says the fiscal avalanche. we can see when the fiscal cliff is about to hit. the avalanche occurs when people stop buying u
we're talking about the fiscal cliff. one of the urgent matters this lame duck congress needs to address before the end of the year and even though the tax increases are going to take effect in 36 days, there's still only talk of a compromise, so can congress actually walk the walk or are we going to go off this cliff? up next, mike lee of utah. really appreciate you taking the time. you wrote an op-ed in the washington times and said quote, delaying significant fiscal restraint will send the...
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they've introduced a plan to put off the fiscal cliff deadline. according to senator alexander, the plan simply pushes the pause button on all elements of the fiscal cliff, extends everything for a year, and then gives us six months in which to reform entitlements and reform taxes and reduce the debt. are you kidding me?! push the pause button? we already pushed the pause button in 2011. these representatives were sent back to washington to get something done now. in fact, pushing the pause button could destroy america's credit rating and further harm the economy. mark zandi, chief economist at moody's analytics says, "if we can kick the can, at some point moody's is going to downgrade. you're going to create more instability in the financial markets." zandi said it would be better to do nothing than to create an extension. republicans and some centrist democrats are definitely not getting the message. when the president won re-election, he said his number one priority is to reach an economic deal by reaching across both sides of the aisle. >> i w
they've introduced a plan to put off the fiscal cliff deadline. according to senator alexander, the plan simply pushes the pause button on all elements of the fiscal cliff, extends everything for a year, and then gives us six months in which to reform entitlements and reform taxes and reduce the debt. are you kidding me?! push the pause button? we already pushed the pause button in 2011. these representatives were sent back to washington to get something done now. in fact, pushing the pause...
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. >>> democrats said they think it's a good idea to drive the economy off the fiscal cliff this january. you might call this thelma and louise economics. right off the cliff. ♪ >> joining me now, senator feldma. >> great to talk to you. >> senator, you've been the leader on how the democrats should be approaching the so-called off the cliff drama and i just want to play something you said on july 16th at the brookings institute. let's listen to that. >> we can't get a good deal, a balanced deal that calls on the wealthy to pay their fair share, when i will absolutely continue this debate into 2013. >> after that, senator mcconnell called that thelma and louise economics. tell us why this cliff is not as disastrous a cliff to go off? >> first of all, no one wants to go off any cliff or hill or slope. there is a responsible way to revolve this. but if we take a bad deal and say that all of the nation's fiscal problems are to be balanced on the back of middle class families and the wealthy don't participate, that's a bad deal we cannot and should not live within this country. >> shortly
. >>> democrats said they think it's a good idea to drive the economy off the fiscal cliff this january. you might call this thelma and louise economics. right off the cliff. ♪ >> joining me now, senator feldma. >> great to talk to you. >> senator, you've been the leader on how the democrats should be approaching the so-called off the cliff drama and i just want to play something you said on july 16th at the brookings institute. let's listen to that. >> we...
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let us go over the fiscal cliff is necessary. keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter. one of the richest men in america is getting a free lunch at the white house. find out what mitt romney could bring to the table and the white house wants him to. we are right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." kevin mccarthy has a movie night. he will be hosting a screening of the movie "lincoln" steven spielberg's portrayal of the republican party's most honored president. last year during the debt ceiling debate on capitol hill, mccarthy tried to rally republicans behind john boehner's plan with this clip from the town. >> i need your help. i can't tell you what it is. you can never ask me about it later. we are going to hurt some people. >> whose car are we going to take? >> if you haven't seen the movie, two characters go to beat up a guy. mccarthy showed a clip where a thief emphasized not asking questions in a situation where people were going to get hurt. mccarthy also organized the republican screening of mo
let us go over the fiscal cliff is necessary. keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter. one of the richest men in america is getting a free lunch at the white house. find out what mitt romney could bring to the table and the white house wants him to. we are right back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." kevin mccarthy has a movie night. he will be hosting a screening of the movie "lincoln" steven spielberg's portrayal of the republican party's...
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today, the long worth congress building protesting spending cuts on the far side of the fiscal cliff and what that would mean for aids funding specifically, there was a nude awakening. aids protesters marching into house speaker john boehner's office to give him the naked truth. boehner, boehner, don't be a sick. budget cuts will make us sick. the budget cuts are really rude, that's why we have to be so lewd. they were trying to lay bare the potential cuts for aids, the protests also served to put a naked spotlight on a major statement expected tomorrow from secretary of state hillary clinton. on the occasion of world aids day, secretary clinton is due to unveil an aids free generation. secretary clinton will make that announcement on thursday morning, but in advance of that renewed commitment to fighting aids, this group, which is known for memorable protests any way, found a way to be more memorable today. one of the groups involved in today's event tweeted, watch naked aids activists take over boehner's office at congress. that was their tweet that you could watch them and you rea
today, the long worth congress building protesting spending cuts on the far side of the fiscal cliff and what that would mean for aids funding specifically, there was a nude awakening. aids protesters marching into house speaker john boehner's office to give him the naked truth. boehner, boehner, don't be a sick. budget cuts will make us sick. the budget cuts are really rude, that's why we have to be so lewd. they were trying to lay bare the potential cuts for aids, the protests also served to...
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the country is teetering on a fiscal cliff right now. and now a rare sighting of an endangered species here in washington. we're talking about compromise. some powerful republican lawmakers are rethinking their anti-tax pledge. i'll talk about wit the number three gop leader in the house of representatives. >>> plus, how iran is rearming hamas in the wake of its latest battle with israel. >>> i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room. " >>> republicans contemplating tax hikes. democrats weighing entitlement cuts. positions largely unthinkable not that long ago. they're taking shape going toward the fiscal cliff w. the new year, severe tax increases and severe spending cuts will automatically take effect unless congress and the white house reach a debt reduction agreement and there are signs each party's sacred cows may be up for slaughter. i want to pick your brain on how far you're willing to go in that area as far as medicare cuts, social security, raising the retirement age, along those lines. all of that is on the table, right?
the country is teetering on a fiscal cliff right now. and now a rare sighting of an endangered species here in washington. we're talking about compromise. some powerful republican lawmakers are rethinking their anti-tax pledge. i'll talk about wit the number three gop leader in the house of representatives. >>> plus, how iran is rearming hamas in the wake of its latest battle with israel. >>> i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room. " >>> republicans...
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there is a question on whether the fiscal cliff would hurt. it says -- our question for you this morning is whether the states should have a stake of in negotiations. looking more in the story "the new york times." it says -- some of the benefits states could receive, nobody is retained that president obama and republicans in congress will fail to reach an accord because they feel -- they fear that the resulting combination of spending cuts and tax increases could prompt another recession, which their states can ill afford. let's go to houston, texas and hear from barry. caller: high. host: am i:should sit seven role in the negotiations? we are hearing about how republicans and president obama are negotiating. caller: i think the democrats should have some form of a democratic rip -- rip at the table. i believe everybody should be involved. it has gone on too far like this without points being made. our domestic investment needs to be saved. they need to cut the military spending down and preserve the safety nets. raise the taxes up and let's
there is a question on whether the fiscal cliff would hurt. it says -- our question for you this morning is whether the states should have a stake of in negotiations. looking more in the story "the new york times." it says -- some of the benefits states could receive, nobody is retained that president obama and republicans in congress will fail to reach an accord because they feel -- they fear that the resulting combination of spending cuts and tax increases could prompt another...
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president obama and congress begin negotiations this week to avoid the coming fiscal cliff. about $600 billion in automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that will kick in at year-end. both sides say they're looking for ways to compromise. >> that's what representative government should be about. no one gets all they want. if reagan and o'neill could do it, boehner and obama should be able to do it. >> reporter: but republicans have consistently voted against any deal that raises tax revenue. >> the key here is whether or not the republicans will move away from the ideologically rigid position which has been the grover/norquist pledge which most of them signed that they will not go for additional revenues. >> reporter: for the first time, even the anti-tax pledge appears to be negotiable. several republicans are indicating they're open to breaking that promise. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece and republicans should put revenue on the table. >> reporter: but new revenue doesn't necessarily mean n
president obama and congress begin negotiations this week to avoid the coming fiscal cliff. about $600 billion in automatic tax hikes and spending cuts that will kick in at year-end. both sides say they're looking for ways to compromise. >> that's what representative government should be about. no one gets all they want. if reagan and o'neill could do it, boehner and obama should be able to do it. >> reporter: but republicans have consistently voted against any deal that raises tax...
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so goes the story that is the fiscal cliff. the president is stepping up his outside game with events this week to 0 build public support. some call it posturing for his preferred combination of tax ineeses and spending cuts. a contrast from how the white house conducted itself during the 2011 debt ceiling standoff. ultimately this fight comes down to another number, 218. the number of house votes needed for a deal. and it's not clear that his efforts will persuade 100 to 120 house republicans who are needed at a minimum for boehner to get a deal done to get to the 218 overall. remember these republicans believe just as fervently as the white house does that they have their version of public opinion on their side. why can do we think this? when it comes to their own voter, both sides are right. the president won re-election fairly handily, but so did republican incumbents in the house. these are some stunning statistics that gerrymandering has created. 93% of the 205 house republicans who ran for re-election won. 88% of them wo
so goes the story that is the fiscal cliff. the president is stepping up his outside game with events this week to 0 build public support. some call it posturing for his preferred combination of tax ineeses and spending cuts. a contrast from how the white house conducted itself during the 2011 debt ceiling standoff. ultimately this fight comes down to another number, 218. the number of house votes needed for a deal. and it's not clear that his efforts will persuade 100 to 120 house republicans...
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let us go over the fiscal cliff is necessary. keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter. one of the richest men in america is getting a free lunch at the white house. find out what mitt romney could bring to the table and the white house wants him to. we are right back. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even know you wanted. like a spoon fork. spray cheese. and jeans made out of sweatpants. so grab yourself some new prilosec otc wildberry. [ male announcer ] one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. >>> welcome back to "the ed show." kevin mccarthy has a movie night. he will be hosting a screening of the movie "lincoln" steven spielberg's portrayal of the republican party's most honored president. last year during the debt ceiling debate on capitol hill, mccarthy tried to rally republicans behind
let us go over the fiscal cliff is necessary. keep sharing your thoughts with us on facebook and on twitter. one of the richest men in america is getting a free lunch at the white house. find out what mitt romney could bring to the table and the white house wants him to. we are right back. now with a fancy coating that gives you a burst of wildberry flavor. now why make a flavored heartburn pill? because this is america. and we don't just make things you want, we make things you didn't even...
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we of course continue to watch the fiscal cliff count down. lawmakers have been trying to convince the naub they are willing to compromise. they return to capitol hill today. >> everything should be on the table. >> bring entitlement reform into the conversation. >> a group of corporate executives are calling on congress to rise above partisan politics to try to find some sort of a solution. we have a lot to talk about with gleg brown and we'll start that in just a moment, but first over to andrew. >>> finance ministers are trying to unfreeze the second bailout package for greece, but first they must agree on how to cut massive debt to a more sustainable level. we'll head to london for details on that. and playing down a deal talk, tom joyce saying his country's currently if talks with at least two firms on a possible sale of its largest business unit. but would only pursue a deal if it created value to shareholders and clients. and mexico's anti-corruption body says it has found no irregularities in its probe of permits given to walmart. two
we of course continue to watch the fiscal cliff count down. lawmakers have been trying to convince the naub they are willing to compromise. they return to capitol hill today. >> everything should be on the table. >> bring entitlement reform into the conversation. >> a group of corporate executives are calling on congress to rise above partisan politics to try to find some sort of a solution. we have a lot to talk about with gleg brown and we'll start that in just a moment, but...
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to that fiscal cliff? the number three republican in the house, kevin mccarthy is going to be here in "the situation room." the house majority whip. and also alan krueger, the chairman of the president's council of economic advisers is going to be here as well. we're trying to gauge if there's going to be a deal or no deal and what it means for our viewers. glad you noticed, brooke. >> of course i noticed. i was so proud of you. i was proud of cnn. i thought the coverage was incredible, watching back here in the u.s. but i have to ask, i know you have a daughter and a lovely wife. did you get a chance to have a thanksgiving? >> yes, i got back in time for thanksgiving. i flew all night. tel aviv, frank forfurtrankfurt here to d.c. i had turkey and cranberry sauce and all that. here's a question i'm going to ask you, brooke -- a year ago last night, where were you -- >> ding. b.e.t. soul train awards. >> did you watch last night? >> i did not. >> what do you mean you did not? i watched, of course. >> if i'm
to that fiscal cliff? the number three republican in the house, kevin mccarthy is going to be here in "the situation room." the house majority whip. and also alan krueger, the chairman of the president's council of economic advisers is going to be here as well. we're trying to gauge if there's going to be a deal or no deal and what it means for our viewers. glad you noticed, brooke. >> of course i noticed. i was so proud of you. i was proud of cnn. i thought the coverage was...
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but first, the fiscal cliff battle here that landed in your lap today. president obama, even wants you to tweet about it. the president went full court press asking americans to pressure congress to keep middle class tax cuts for families earning $250,000 or less. >> it is too important for washington to screw this up. now is the time for us to work on what we all agree to, which is let's keep middle class taxes low. tweet, use the hashag my2k or e-mail, post it on a member of congress' facebook wall, do what it takes to communicate a sense of urgency. i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. i got to repeat, i've got a pen. i'm ready to sign it. so -- >> the president wants republicans to first agree to keep the middle class tax cuts, and then he wants to move on and tackle the rest of the fiscal cliff problems. do not count on groundswell of republican support. in fact, one republican, congressman tom cob, proposed a similar idea and conservative republicans shot him down. we'll get to that here in a moment. quite a moment today. also p
but first, the fiscal cliff battle here that landed in your lap today. president obama, even wants you to tweet about it. the president went full court press asking americans to pressure congress to keep middle class tax cuts for families earning $250,000 or less. >> it is too important for washington to screw this up. now is the time for us to work on what we all agree to, which is let's keep middle class taxes low. tweet, use the hashag my2k or e-mail, post it on a member of congress'...
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weekend, not much public evidence of any real progress on a deal the avoid the fiscal cliff. folks here in washington are wondering if this week will prove a turning point for republicans and democrats. members of congress expressed optimism sunday about the prospects for reaching a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. a series of tax increases and spending cuts next year that could do serious damage to the economy. they also sounded warnings. >> we can and must get an agreement. otherwise i think first of all the markets are going to start reacting. >> it's not a done deal and not a certainty. if congress does nothing, which congress has gotten pretty good at doing these days, we'll go over the fiscal cliff. >> reporter: staffers have been working behind the scenes to find common ground to prevent across-the-board cuts lawmakers say should concern everyone. >> i think you should be worried if you have a fence job we all ought to be worried whether we are dependent upon other aspects of the federal budget, whether we're worried about the regulation of our food safety, whether we'r
weekend, not much public evidence of any real progress on a deal the avoid the fiscal cliff. folks here in washington are wondering if this week will prove a turning point for republicans and democrats. members of congress expressed optimism sunday about the prospects for reaching a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. a series of tax increases and spending cuts next year that could do serious damage to the economy. they also sounded warnings. >> we can and must get an agreement. otherwise i...
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host: if you go to our website c-span.org/fiscal those plays cliff -- c-host:span.org/fiscal cldff. next it will have a roundtable discussion on the fiscal of. but first, in news update. >> patrick donahoe in remarks earlier today on cbs this morning said the agency must be allowed to use prepayments on the retirement health-care fun and allow general mail delivery on saturday. he said he thinks most people do not realize that in his words, we are 100% self-sufficient. we pay our own way. but the postal agency is losing $16 billion this year. the epa is set -- is temporarily suspending bp from new contracts with the u.s. government. two weeks ago, bp agreed to plead guilty involving -- in its involvement in the death of a love and oil workers in the oil spill in the gulf in 2010. bp also agreed to lying to congress over how much oil was spilled. defense secretary leon panetta, along with the vice president's wife, dr. khiel biden, -- jill biden, held a dedication at the vietnam memorial here in washington. it is expanding the planned scope of the center to include more recent servic
host: if you go to our website c-span.org/fiscal those plays cliff -- c-host:span.org/fiscal cldff. next it will have a roundtable discussion on the fiscal of. but first, in news update. >> patrick donahoe in remarks earlier today on cbs this morning said the agency must be allowed to use prepayments on the retirement health-care fun and allow general mail delivery on saturday. he said he thinks most people do not realize that in his words, we are 100% self-sufficient. we pay our own way....
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congress designed the fiscal cliff. i think probably senator thune from south dakota is making the most sense last night saying maybe we should kick the can down the road for six months instead of trying to rush it i'm not a fan of kicking the can down the road, that's what congress does. in this case, you have everyone scrambling, trying to examine the ramifications of the election. you have new people coming in. some of the people voting were thrown out of congress. why not wait until the 1st of the year. >> kicking the can, you look at markets today. you have global markets up. stock futures are up. the stock market was up yesterday because this whole idea of optimism from john boehner and the president that this could get done by the end of the year is something the world wants to see. you look at our polling. our polling shows, and the most recent poll from abc news/"washington post," 60% of people support raising tacks on incomes over $250,000 per year. isn't the argument of kicking the can down the road losing so
congress designed the fiscal cliff. i think probably senator thune from south dakota is making the most sense last night saying maybe we should kick the can down the road for six months instead of trying to rush it i'm not a fan of kicking the can down the road, that's what congress does. in this case, you have everyone scrambling, trying to examine the ramifications of the election. you have new people coming in. some of the people voting were thrown out of congress. why not wait until the 1st...
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congressional leaders are hoping to hammer out a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. it is clear that the lawmakers are strug struggling to find a common ground. but some are saying there is a compromise. >> the stock market rallied amidst the talk of a possible deal being made. but independent senator joe lieberman is saying there is no done deal. he says, if congress does nothing, which they have gotten pretty good at, we will go over the fiscal cliff. the republicans have conceded that the government needs to find new ways to take in more money and now the fight is centered on where to get it from. >> i would be very much opposed to raising tax rates. but i believe we can change loopholes. >> i want entitlement reforms. democracies promise to cut spending. we never cut spending. i am looking for revenue for entitlement reform. >> reporter: senator graham says age adjustment and means testing for medicare and social security is a reasonable thing. but illinois democratic senator dick durbin doesn't want to touch social security. he thinks the new revenue should come
congressional leaders are hoping to hammer out a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. it is clear that the lawmakers are strug struggling to find a common ground. but some are saying there is a compromise. >> the stock market rallied amidst the talk of a possible deal being made. but independent senator joe lieberman is saying there is no done deal. he says, if congress does nothing, which they have gotten pretty good at, we will go over the fiscal cliff. the republicans have conceded that the...